Wing Tsun Training
Wing Tsun training led by Sifu Bernd Wagner. Unfortunately, it sounds like he just passed away. He looks like a pretty talented wing chun instructor, and a very successful one.
opticannon (19 hours ago)
you shouldnt be chi sau at only one month. they are using your hands and abusing your time, maybe. heres a neat trick that will do away with all of that. on the half roll just go tan dar and step foward. they go to move go tan dar. keep doing it just remember how many different ways to execute.cross your hands in a trapped position and go tan dar in the mirror. see what they do to you too make it your mission not to flinch
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nirpal24 (3 days ago)
i still find it hard to block against my opponents during chi sao - although iv only done it for a month im still enjoying it
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opticannon (3 days ago)
some times. its only in the beginning you train soft. the degrees are modulate d like a dial. there is also broken rhythm. yet what they are doing for demo is standing on ceremony. which still sucks
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blackbeltste (5 days ago)
knee him in the balls! yeah! love wing chun.
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tastethefreedom (6 days ago)
watching kung fu movies dont count. I bet ur like 50 and trying to play world of warcraft. u suck
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hgamer (6 days ago)
i’m a wing chun practioner, based on my experience, you need to train more before opening your mouth
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tastethefreedom (6 days ago)
im a wing chun practioner based on experience they shouldnt be stiff they need to be soft
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negomaravilha (1 week ago)
great chi sao…
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Targetius (1 week ago) marked as spam
The guy in black at the third match seems to be pretty good and the guy with glasses and stripe shirt has some interesting skills too. Not Wing Chun at it’s best if you ask me though.
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VingTsunTX (2 weeks ago) marked as spam
THIS IS AWESOME.
I love seeing wing chun from its home.
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nel3000 (4 weeks ago) marked as spam
its the person not the style…i know people who do tae bo that can beat people that do other shit.
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theladiesfan (1 month ago) marked as spam
hehe… it seems none of them wants to look bad in front of the crowd…. face is a funny thing.
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mypetfish (1 month ago) marked as spam
looks like too much tension in the chi sao. Sometimes they are just circling round with exagerrated movements. A softer WS practitioner would just collapse and go through the middle where the hole is.
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zercle (1 month ago) marked as spam
I think it’s beautiful to have people get together on some street and try out their skills without negative aggression, destructive egos and pointless competition.
Thanks for sharing
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wingchunclub (3 months ago) marked as spam
Thanks ph8tel, It’s so wonderful to see different styles of our system. I think I saw Grandmaster Chan in the crowd. What year was this? I even recall a few more faces from the crowd. Cool.
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Fastlan3 (3 months ago) marked as spam
The third match, the man in the black shirt has some skill.
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bluez4u2 (3 months ago) marked as spam
This only confirms that WC has been evolving over time and becoming better. That stuff on the video clip might have been old old style WC that never evolved. The WC that you see now a days in Hong Kong is way better.
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doink3 (4 months ago) marked as spam
man u kidding its terrible! thats not wing chun, its scrapping panicking
ahay321 (6 days ago)
Wing chun designed to defeat other styles! Other styles use wild round punches. Wing chun person would simply block these with bil sau (thrusting hand), counter with the other. Block/strike. Round punches are SO easy to see and block. Wing Chun prefer to punch straight but can use small circle punches eg: hook. Blocks set up many techniques such as grabs, throws, choke holds, submissions.
angryonion87 (1 week ago)
yeh it is more likely to be messy in a real fight but what wouldnt become less graceful. id still rather be able to fight standing than grapple like in UFC. Who wants to be tackling someone on the ground in an ally with broken glass, and what if there are multiple attackers (usually the case), whats is buddy doing while your scrapping on the floor.
shaolinking5 (2 weeks ago)
What bothers me is that most MMA fighters have 4-6 years of training tops and just hop into the ring and yet people call them the greatest fighters in the world. Don’t get me wrong, I love EVERY fighting style and think they all have something to offer, but UFC and Pride fighters are not the best in the world. You have to look farther than your TV set to find the best.
wozbot (3 weeks ago)
If you can catch them on your forearms you have a fighting chance of retaliating. Whatever style you train you need to work on your strength, stamina and body conditioning to have a realistic chance of taking hits and surviving the battle. Osu!
wozbot (3 weeks ago)
The only qualm I have about WC is that the defence seems to be geared solely against WC attacks. A street thug will not attack you in direct straight lines with his feet glued to the floor. That is why you need a close in ‘boxer’ defence (IMO). Your opponent is most likely to use wild haymakers which you will not be able to predict.
Shinsengumi77 (3 weeks ago)
actually, WC is geared more towards those wide boxing attacks. We just train with other WC practitioners to train at the same time. Hooks and other wide, circular techniqes would be very ineffective (and potentially kamikaze-like) if you use them on a WC dude.
hgamer (3 weeks ago)
thank god you mentioned it, coz some believe that the quickest path between 2 points isn’t a straight line. if youtube required an i.q. test for most of these posters, they’d fail.
Swrdmaster9 (3 weeks ago)
the guy in the vid seems to know what he’s doing, but he still comes off as sluggish and lacking the “total control he speaks of. why does this video have artistic cuts every 5 seconds, and why does it end like a DEVO music video? most importantly why is he trying to be a fat bruce lee? the one inch punch demo is way overdone now, and the bruce lee scream is unnescesary at best.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-232DNU8_TI
Some of the comments with this video:
guitartangokid (2 weeks ago)
These are serious wing chun skills, i belive it is known as sticking hands. can be unbelievabely useful at close range. Dont mess with it heh. Look at thier arms, if they wanted to really smash eachother it wouldnt be very pretty, hospital job. They have control, the exersize is not pointless at all, builds hand eye co-ordination, muscle endurance, and knowledge of what strikes feel like, not justlook like.
siulamtau (4 weeks ago)
I won’t deny them their skill…somewhat, but there was no fook sau, but i did see some taan saus. overall, there was some good points, but lines were off and the “sifu” over shifted many times, so he could have been merely pushed away pretty easily.
WingChunStdnt (1 month ago)
They look like they’re having fun, which is why they are more relaxed in their techniques than normal. I think it’s a great way to show that you don’t have to be perfect in executing every move in Wing Chun to know it can still be very effective. This is definately one of the better Wing Chun videos our there.
Chi sao (Chinese 黐手, Cantonese chi1 sau2, Mandarin chǐshǒu) or “sticking hands”. Term for the principle, and drills used for the development of automatic reflexes upon contact and the idea of “sticking” to the opponent. In Wing Chun this is practiced through two practitioners maintaining contact with each other’s forearms while executing techniques, thereby training each other to sense changes in body mechanics, pressure, momentum and “feel”. This increased sensitivity gained from this drill helps a practitioner attack and counter an opponent’s movements precisely, quickly and with the appropriate technique.
Chi sao is very similar to the hubud-lubad drills of Eskrima. It looks somewhat like the push hands training of T’ai Chi Ch’uan. (Some lineages even refer to Wing Chun as “combat Tai Chi”[1]. Chi sao is also taught in the Jeet Kune Do traditions, and uses modified versions of some of the component techniques such as the bong sao and jut sao. Baguazhang uses its own form of chi sao, which involves one hand of each practitioner being “stuck together” at the wrist while they try to unbalance each other or perform a Chin Na (joint-lock) technique.
Chi Sao additionally refers to the Luk Sao (methods of rolling hands) drills. Luk Sao participants push and “roll” their forearms against each other in a single circle while trying to remain relaxed. The aim is to feel forces, test resistances and find defensive gaps. Other branches do a version of this where each of the arms roll in small separate circles. Luk Sao is most notably taught with in the Pan Nam branches where both the lager rolling dills and the method where each of the arms roll in small separate circles are taught.
In some branches (most notably the Yip Man and Jiu Wan branches) chi-sao drills begin with one-armed chi-sau (dan chi sao) which helps the amateur student to get the feel of the exercise. Each practitioner uses one hand from the same side as they face each other.
Chi Sao is only a sensitivity drill. An exercise used to obtain specific abilities. It must not be confused or mistaken as a sparring equivalent.
Watch Sifu Austin Goh in this Wing Chun Chi Sao Sparring session. He even engages in chi sao blindfolded!
One comment of Youtube sums up this video pretty well:
“I’m not sure how long they’ve been practicing, but one pitfall of wing chun training is letting the hands drop too low. You have to keep them higher in front of the face, or a real boxer will pick your face apart with jabs alone. Second, commit to an attack, don’t spend the whole time faking. Third, don’t forget you have legs to kick. Use them as a distraction to the lower body while you attack upstairs. Thats just my two cents.”
If you enjoy watching Wing Chun Chi Sao practice, check out these videos! I see paksao, bongsao, lopsao and more. All of the basics are being used here in some way, and some advanced Wing Chun training maneuvers you’ll want to watch very closely.
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